【正文】 s express parcel number is 2100000000 . Taobao accounted for billion , this year may reach 3 billion . We do not want to engage in their own logistics system. China needs about 10 million courier staff . How can we have 10 million employees operate a pany ? We currently have 23,000 employees, which has made me quite a headache. We have to do is to help an。我們從未想過建立自己的物流公司，以前沒有，以后也不會。我們怎么可能運營一個有1000萬員工的公司？目前我們有23000員工，這已經(jīng)讓我很頭疼 了。我們不想搞自己的物流體系。去年中國的快遞包裹數(shù)是21億個。我不認為我們需要改變模式。我不認為淘寶的模式有什么問題。s. Like Taobao Tencent, Google and facebook, it39。A: Taobao grow too fast , and it will be faster . This is a challenge for us because we 39。坦白的說，最好的方法是什么，我也不知道。淘寶就像騰訊、谷歌和facebook，它不是一間中國的公司，不僅僅屬于中國或者美國，它屬于21世紀的這個時代。我要確保，我們把大公司運作得像小公司一樣。變成更小一些的公司，可以給其他競爭者以機會。淘寶發(fā)展的太大太快，為此我很擔心。我是大自然保護協(xié)會的董事。這對我們來說是個挑戰(zhàn)，因為我們從沒運營過這么大的公司。如果我們不從別人的錯誤中學習，我們遲早有一天也會受到同樣的挑戰(zhàn)。所以我們愿意跟大家分享，我們是如何節(jié)約了開支，如何解雇一些人，那時候我們必須早一點解雇一部分人，留下一部分人。我們可能是極少數(shù)幾家真正懂得雅虎美國的公司之一。我沒有任何的并購經(jīng)驗，尤其是并購互聯(lián)網(wǎng)公司。但如果回到過去，我們還會買下中國雅虎么？是的，我們還會買！但我們還會以這種方式么？不，我們不會了。在美國，你們稱之為偏執(zhí)狂，我的確是的。s the problem. This is not a big problem . This is a gesture. Put it on the table to discuss it , I do not think the government would ban it.問：如果讓你回頭重來，你還會這么做么？Q: If you could go back again , will you do it ?答：我們經(jīng)歷了很困難的一段時間。s Internet and other hightech industries. Alibaba has thus benefited a lot. I do not think the government would ban VIE, do not understand why people would be so worried . However, in some sensitive areas or industries, such as the financial sector, the government would be more careful this pattern , which I fully understand and agree. No matter in which country, if foreigncontrolled panies want to get a banking license , will be opposed , in China also do so. About the VIE model, I have not heard what the Government said that it should be abolished , so why worry about it ? A few days ago I read an article about Shao Kong Chuen the article, they change is great, I really began to understand VIE is legitimate and transparent. This is the power of the Internet . After 10 years , if in certain sensitive sectors , VIE makes you feel unfortable, please join us to discuss . Some people say that you have a problem Alipay , I frankly speaking, because of this , we put on the table in terms of VIE . When the People39。擺在桌子上來說、來討論它，我不認為政府會禁止它。這不是個什么大的問題。這個你同意吧？因為我們發(fā)展的越來越大，所以需要做的工作非常多。有人說你們的支付寶有問題，我坦誠的講，因為這個，我們把VIE放到桌面上來講。這就是互聯(lián)網(wǎng)的力量。不管在哪個國家，如果外資控股的公司想要獲得銀行牌照，都會被反對，在中國也如此。我不認為政府會禁止VIE，也不明白為什么人們會如此擔心。它幫助中國的互聯(lián)網(wǎng)及其他高科技行業(yè)的發(fā)展。首先，VIE是個偉大的創(chuàng)新。我很迷惑。A: At present , I can only tell you that we are very interested .問：今天早上陳一舟說，任何關于VIE的問題，都可以去問馬云。s assets to Alibaba for Internet users and the industry are also very important. So we39。A: Good question . Yes . We are very interested . We are very interested in Yahoo because of Yahoo39。所有的潛在投資者也與我們溝通過。我們對雅虎很感興趣，是因為阿里巴巴集團是雅虎的重要資產(chǎn)，而雅虎的資產(chǎn)對阿里巴巴、對互聯(lián)網(wǎng)用戶及整個行業(yè)也都非常重要。是的。s economy will face a huge challenge. If you have a premonition that bad things will happen from now on whom it is to prepare , instead of plaining and whining that time . As an Internet pany, we must assume our responsibilities. I am not a politician , I only speak for myself , for my clients and the 50 million SMEs 8000000 Taobao sellers speak. In the three years after they how to survive ? This is what I want to go to America to learn the purpose . Like Obama learn how he will increase employment , how would he do , organize experience from our mistakes , and then three years later , with our approach to help ourselves. That39。 such as Europe may already know what to do 。m not bragging, I think today, 12 years after establishment of Alibaba , I think it is very easy to make money , but to stabilize the money, and social responsibility to promote social development, is very difficult to . This is why we are trying to whom , I believe China because of the Internet, in the next three years there will be a great development. This year , people say a lot of China 39。The average age of our employees is 26 years old. We are facing many challenges , which I was not aware of that . There have been a highlevel government visits to the Company , he said Ma, Taobao if you have 300 million users , it would have been even better than I manage a big country . I said yes , the management very difficult. No matter what we have to work out a new policy will make us encounter all kinds of pressure . However, users have plained about the time, it seems to be dissatisfied with the formulation of government policies like . Is the average age of 26 employees in the development of Taobao game rules , we have never had such an experience . If we change it, for example, do the search engines, traditional search engines , will sell well , the cheapest standing in the front , but I think we39。這就是為什么我會來這里。他們在3年后要如何生存下去？這也是我此次來到美國想要去學習的目的。作為互聯(lián)網(wǎng)公司，我們必須承擔起我們的責任。三四年后，中國的經(jīng)濟將面臨巨大的挑戰(zhàn)。今年，人們說很多中國的股票因為VIE掉了很多。抓住機會是非常容易的，我不是吹牛，我覺得今天，在阿里巴巴成立12年后，我覺得賺錢非常容易，但是要穩(wěn)定的賺錢，并且對社會負起責任、推動社會的發(fā)展，非常難。所以我們還面臨著許許多多的考驗。我們不需要不能服務于人的項目。我的回答是，如果這個改變是正確的，我們就要做下去。之后，會有很多的人會去驗證。就是這些平均年齡26歲的員工，在制定著淘寶的“游戲規(guī)則”，我們從未有過這樣的經(jīng)歷。不管我們制定出什么新的政策，都會讓我們遇到各種壓力。曾有一位政府高層來公司訪問，他說馬云，如果你們淘寶有3億用戶，那就已經(jīng)比我管理的國家還要大了。s products , in fact, not services, is the people, is our people.我們員工的平均年齡是26歲。re just a factory. We are changing these factories to reverse this situation, I feel very proud. This has nothing to do with wealth , because if you had a million , you39。阿里巴巴的產(chǎn)品，其實并不是服務，是人，是我們的員工。你的股東、投資者，認為你應該比政府更能有效地使用這些錢。你會擔心通貨膨脹，于是你開始投資，接著你就可能遇到困難。我們正在改變這些工廠，扭轉(zhuǎn)這種局面，我感到非常自豪。所以我們應該告訴這些生產(chǎn)者，你必須直接跟你的客戶溝通，你應該自己去做銷售，自己提供服務，這才是真正的做生意。他們不知道誰是他們的銷售渠道，也不了解最終購買他們產(chǎn)品的客戶。10 years ago , when I walk down the street , someone ran over to thank me, because Ali Baba to help them get foreign orders , foreign business. Today, when I walk down the street , someone came to thank me and said he and his wife opened a Taobao shop, a living and decent ine . This, to me , is significant. We will be honest bee valuable ( your integrity can be turned into money ) . Many years ago, if you have a good credit history ,